Today’s subject is one of my favorites. It is on diversification, or what we like to call deWORSEification. I, of course, did not come up with that phrase. It’s been used by billionaires like Warren Buffet, Peter Lynch, Sam Walton of Walmart fame. They’ve all called it deWORSEification at one time or another. So we’re going to deal with diversification today and how to use it properly, which oddly enough means don’t use it the way that the average person is using it.
Let me start off by saying why “don’t use it” when that is the logic and the common sense that’s going on in America right now? It’s simple. With the logic and common sense that is “don’t carry all your eggs in one basket,” 96 percent of Americans at age 65 cannot write a check for $600. See, if you’ll let go of what I like to call the ego—the ego that wants to be right, the ego that wants to do what everybody else is doing, the ego that doesn’t want to be different, that doesn’t want to be made fun of—if you’ll let go of all that and simply look at the results of that strategy, you will find out that it’s ludicrous.
The people that espouse this, the financial planners, the guys on TV, the pundits—and I’m not picking on these individuals for any other reason than their investment strategy—but the Dave Ramseys, the Jim Cramers, the Suze Ormans, they all got slaughtered in ‘87, ‘97, 2000, 2001, and 2008. Why? Because they did not know what they were doing when it comes to investing.
Own Businesses
You say, “Well, they still have money.” They all own businesses. They all own businesses, and their businesses excelled. They own TV, radio, books. They make massive amounts of money off of that. And I don’t want to sound pompous, we make great money off of our radio shows and so on, but what you’ve got to understand is that when they got slaughtered in the marketplace, we did not. In ‘87 we made massive amounts of money. In ‘97 when the stock market crashed we made massive amounts of money. In 2000 and 2001 when the stock market crashed we made massive amounts of money. When 2008 came and the collapse came of the stock market we made massive amounts of money because we’re investors and we’re focused, and we know what we’re doing.
The question comes down to this, though, and what we’re going to focus on in this first segment is: Why would a nation of 300 million people all be following a path that we all know doesn’t work? Ninety-six percent of 65 year olds cannot write a check for $600? So what we do is as soon as everything collapses we go right back to the people that got slaughtered just the same way we did—referring to the financial planners, your stock brokers—they got hammered just like you did, and you’re going right back to them.
Wrong Map
Why would a nation of 300 million people follow a path we all know doesn’t work and hasn’t ever worked? There’s a multitude of reasons out there, but my favorite explanation comes from a man named Dr. Stephen Covey in his book The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. He says that the reason we do this is it’s not because we’re all stupid; it’s not even because we’re all insane—even though when a group of people or an individual does the same thing over and over again and expects a different result that is a form of insanity. He says it’s not because of stupidity or insanity; it’s because we’ve all got the wrong map.
See, the problem is all of us are trying to get to peace, joy, love, wealth, health, happiness—and we’ll call that Disney World. And from the time we’re old enough to walk people start telling us how to get to Disney World—co-workers, bosses, parents, people who love and care about us and people we should love and respect. However, once you do a complete analysis and you watch and ask questions of those people, the people that gave you your map, your business model, what you’re going to find out is that your parents, your teachers, your co-workers and your bosses who are all trying to help you get to Disney World—peace, joy, love, wealth, health, happiness—have all none of them been guess where? Disney World.
You’ve got to start dictating where your ideas are coming from. Let’s look in detail to where these beliefs come from. You hear them from your parents, you hear them from your co-workers, you hear them from bosses, professors even at college. My favorite story about this comes and how this was brought to light for me was when I was first a new member of Lifestyles Unlimited. I had just hired Del Walmsley the founder of Lifestyles Unlimited to mentor me. I was sitting at the back of a room one time complaining about my car note, my house note, my pay, my relationship with my wife, you know, everything that you can imagine I was complaining about it.
My Lesson on Diversification
Well, Del pulls me aside and says, “Hey, Steve, what are you doing with your money?” And if you will, the first thing that came out of my mouth was, “Well, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong, Del. I am diversified.” Now, when he stopped laughing at me, which I’ve told you before it seemed like a half hour but I’m sure it was just a few seconds, but when he stopped laughing at me he proceeded to ask me why I believed that I was supposed to be diversified.
Why do you believe you’re supposed to be diversified? Why when I say, “Go put all your eggs in one basket” does it become so offensive to so many people? To understand this I want you to look at your beliefs as if they sit on a table top. The table top is the belief diversification we’ll say in this case. Well, let’s use a different example so it’s easier to understand. Let’s use the eye of a stove is hot. That’s the belief. What holds up the belief and keeps it from falling into disbelief will be the legs of past experience. In other words, you know that the eye of a stove is hot because you’ve got past experience. You cooked on it, there’s one leg. You burnt your hand on it one time, there’s another leg. You boiled water. You did other things. You had past experience, and those legs hold up that belief and keep it from falling—the table top from falling into disbelief.
Referral Past Experience
But hold on, even at six months of age you knew the eye of the stove was hot, didn’t you? That’s right, you knew the eye of a stove was hot because you waddled towards that stove and someone who loved you stopped you. They picked you up, they hugged you, they kissed you, and they said, “Hey, don’t put your hand up there. It’s hot.” That’s a thing called referral past experience, and in that case it’s excellent. However, in most cases referral past experience is poor or unqualified.
Let me give you an example. Let’s go back to diversification. When Del asked me why I believed I was supposed to be diversified—there’s the table top diversification—I told him my first leg. I said my parents told me not to put all of my eggs what? And every one of you can answer this…in one basket. He asked me, “Steve, were your parents or have your parents ever been in the financial position that you want to be in?” I said, “No.” I said, “But, but, but, but wait a second. I took college prep economics. My high school teachers taught me not to put all my eggs in one basket.” He asked again, “Were your high school teachers in the financial position that you want to be in when you’re their age?” I said, “No.” Can you see how two legs under my table, under my belief about diversification are now gone? Can you see that that belief is starting to waver, starting to wobble a little bit?
I shut up at that point because my table wasn’t wobbling—it completely fell. Because if I hadn’t have been embarrassed I would of continued on to say when I was at a major university in Texas I went to a class where a professor complained about his car note, his house note, his pay, his relationship with his spouse, and then did guess what? Taught 150 kids economics.
I became painfully aware at this point that all of my beliefs about money had come from people unqualified to give them to me. Now, important are these people malicious—your parents, your teachers, your professors? No. The problem is they’ve never been where? Where you’re trying to go, therefore they are unqualified to teach you.
Billionaire’s Beliefs
Let’s take a moment just before the break and let’s rebuild this diversification belief with some billionaires’ beliefs. Let’s put that belief that your investments should be diversified on that tabletop. Now let’s see what is said about it by the billionaires. Can any of you right now spout off instantly what Andrew Carnegie—the richest man to have ever lived debatably but one of the richest men to ever live—what did he say about diversification over 100 years ago? It’s very simple. He told you to put all your eggs in one basket and spend your entire life making sure nobody kicks over your basket.
Now, isn’t it interesting that almost every one of you as listeners could finish the sentence when I said don’t put all your eggs what? In one basket. All of you could answer that. But I will bet you—‘cause I’ve given this presentation in front of 30 people and 300 and 500 people only one, two, three, maybe four people, less than one percent of Americans know what the billionaires said about it. To put other legs under there, the richest investor in the United States Warren Buffet, Sam Walton of Walmart fame, Peter Lynch, all call it deWORSEification. There it is right there. That’s the key.
If you want to start learning about money and start changing beliefs like diversification and start getting the real understanding of diversification, you’ve got to start dictating where your ideas come from. You’ve got to keep the ego in check and go, man, I do have some beliefs about money. I do have some beliefs about real estate. I have some beliefs about this, about that. Start questioning where you got them and see if the referral past experience that you have is not unqualified.







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diversifying and just letting money camp adds to 0, when you adapt and take your dollar cost averaging and play it smartly, you can get returns…
Can you trust a normal population with understanding cashflow? Most people can’t handle income/expense/credit… It is in the advisor’s best interest to promote diversification because they can’t sit and micromanage everyone’s portfolio. People get overexcited when things go up…too much fear when things go down.
Instead of seeing opportunity, they would rather earn 0 than chance losing. Doesn’t mean you’re argument is wrong by any means, but there are rare people who understand the math behind compound interest, let alone dovetailing real-estate deals and having their moneyw ork hard for them.
Alex,
Great points. That is why you get a mentor that does know how to do that and imitate them.
I think with the right training, you could trust the normal population. The difference is simply what people are taught. I was the normal population until I got a mentor.
Thank you so much for you comment and great thoughts.
Sincerely,
Steve
Alex,
I don’t think you are giving people enough credit. We live in the greatest/smartest country on Earth. Cashflow is an extremely simple concept that anyone can learn and understand. ie) I put in $X, I get back $X+1 = Happy Investor
Getting a 4 year degree as most of the “normal population” strives for (I did so myself)and working the rest of your life requires much more time, effort, hard work and dedication to get through than learning how to invest in real estate.
If you’ll go back and read your second paragraph; you are releasing everyone of responsibility. The individual is not responsible for their financial well-being because they are not sophisticated enough to understand money, and the advisors are released from responsibility because “they can’t sit and micromanage everyone’s portfolio”. You basically just said that the advisor is too busy to help the very people who trust him/her with their livelyhood. Why are they in business? Who is responsible? Hint: 3 letter word that begins with “Y” and ends in “O”…
All it comes down to is taking the time to invest in your financial education and surround yourself with people who are successful at business/real estate. I promise, anyone can do this stuff!!
“Real estate is easy. People are difficult.” – Del Walmsley
Trent
Yeo?
Hey, it happens…
I think Del’s example was assuming you can take short and long positions, at the same time in like-kind of instruments (ETF, Mutual Funds, Stocks, etc).
In a 401k for example you wont have this scenarios in place by nature, the mayority of the options for their portfolios are long.
To illustrate what Im talking about, please to anyone who is reading this, If you have a 401k account please login and check all the investments options available and you will notice the YTD’s return is positive for all of them.
Thanks,
Will
You have to be careful with the 401k examples, because most 401k’s violate all 3 of Del’s rules of investing.
1. Don’t Lose Money. A 401k invested in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc. has the possibility of losing value (I.E. last year). Buying real estate at $.50 on the dollar puts you in an instant equity position and dramatically decreases your risk.
2. It Has to Cashflow. Unless you are invested in stocks or bonds with high dividend yields, most 401ks do not cashflow. Remember that capital appreciation is not cashflow.
3. You Can’t Get Rich Slow. What is the average return of most mutual funds or stocks? Some say 12%… some say that it’s only 6% when you account for fees and inflation. Even if you hit it big and get 50% every once in awhile, you are still looking at a long process. Getting 100%, 200%, and even infinite gains (see our video case studies) is how you get rich quickly.
I wasn’t addressing Del’s rules, my point is referring to Del’s example; It doesnt make sense in a 401k enviroment.
Thanks
Will
Whether Del’s example uses long positions, short positions, margin accounts, derivatives, options, etc. those are all speculative moves. You can make money on them all, but you’re still just guessing at which way the market will move. That’s speculating, pure and simple. In other words, it’s gambling your future.
Fisrt at all: if your presuntion has a false premises you can conclude anything (logical fallacy).
Second: Gambling depends basically in your approach, independently the nature of the beast (ie FL, CA realstate).
I think it will be fair compare apples vs apples.
Thanks
Will
Will,
It’s not clear what you are talking about…what presumption are you concerned with?
You are 100% correct that people can lose money by speculating in real estate. But we don’t speculate. We are investors. As investors we make money in both the up and down market (and so will you.)
Speculation is gambling, regardless of whether it is in real estate, stocks, pork bellies, soybeans, gold, etc. I hear stories all the time about people who lose money in speculative real estate. That’s why we don’t teach speculating in real estate, we teach investing in real estate.
Thanks for the continued dialog. Great input. I also hope our responses are coming out respectful. Love to hear more from you.
My point is very simple, if you start with an expeculative example (mixed with diversification) you can drive the results to any positive or negative territory, due to the expeculative factor in it.
why is an expeculative example? ask any financial planner about the best products, if somebody offers you 100% returns, my advise is runaway, that is not an investment, thats expeculation.
Going back to my point, the root of the problem (I think) in the example (besides its not likely in a 401k enviroment) its expeculation, not diversification.
Do rich people diversify? Yes within their context of knowledge.
Bill Gates in the software arena has operating system, spreadsheet, wordprocessing, search engine, etc => Diversification.
W. Buffet under his firm, holds anykind of instruments (stocks, bonds, warrants, options, etc) for several companies => Diversification.
Thanks
Will
Thanks for the new post.
I am sorry to ask this but what is expeculative? There is no definition for it at dictionary.com. Do you mean speculative? No worries but we need it clear.
If you watch the video and read the text, you will find we are agreeing. Carnegie never said put your egg in one basket. He said put your eggs in one basket. This is what we are saying too.
When you know what you are doing, you don’t put money in 5 different things. You put your money where you know it works.
Again, diversification, as we are attacking it, is ineffective and harming American families. It only protects against ignorance. I think people should go out and learn something, eliminate the ignorance and work it.
If people would listen to you and I, focus their effort in their “context of knowledge” we would be better off a individuals and a county.
Does this make more sense?
Thanks again,
Steve
Yes agree!. But I still think the example it may be related to “speculative” (thanks) scenario, but the content of the article fits very well.
Diversification Protection.
its a such nice day today, have a good weekend.
Thanks
Will,
PS1: Sorry for the typo.
PS2: Here is an interesting thing from dictionary.com: definition of “diversification”, man here is the root of all the problems!
The act or practice of manufacturing a variety of products, investing in a “variety of securities”, selling a “variety of merchandise”, etc., so that a failure in or an economic slump affecting one of them will not be disastrous
Diversification IS NOT Protection
For some reason it didnt show the distinct characters from my original post.