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		<title>By: Alfonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you can participate in what is called a Self Directed IRA.  Check out Entrust or Houston Capital Group, or Newman Asset Management on our vendor list (under the category IRA &amp; Real Estate).  If you are not a member, then click on the free starter kit for access to the vendor list.
It is unlikely that you will be able to use 401(k) funds to invest in real estate because you are constrained to the choices available by your plan administrator.
Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you can participate in what is called a Self Directed IRA.  Check out Entrust or Houston Capital Group, or Newman Asset Management on our vendor list (under the category IRA &amp; Real Estate).  If you are not a member, then click on the free starter kit for access to the vendor list.</p>
<p>It is unlikely that you will be able to use 401(k) funds to invest in real estate because you are constrained to the choices available by your plan administrator.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: BHARATWAJ NANANDHAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHARATWAJ NANANDHAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a way to use your 401k and retirment funds to invest into real estate. tks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way to use your 401k and retirment funds to invest into real estate. tks</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesunlimited.com/who_is_in_control_of_your_money/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the seller is paying the sales commissions, so you don’t include that in your costs&quot; typically you dont have one single transaction, or you may have a refinance at the ARV after the buy, or you may use any hard money, in either way you will incurr in a realized cost from the very beginning.
Why everytime a deal is being exposed, it never considers the unrealized/realized costs, if we are talking in terms of unrealized gains? I think those are typical fees/costs associated for any new investor, and we need to be aware of those if we want more control of your money.
DO you think those costs are conservatively or typical for a new investor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the seller is paying the sales commissions, so you don’t include that in your costs&#8221; typically you dont have one single transaction, or you may have a refinance at the ARV after the buy, or you may use any hard money, in either way you will incurr in a realized cost from the very beginning.</p>
<p>Why everytime a deal is being exposed, it never considers the unrealized/realized costs, if we are talking in terms of unrealized gains? I think those are typical fees/costs associated for any new investor, and we need to be aware of those if we want more control of your money.</p>
<p>DO you think those costs are conservatively or typical for a new investor?</p>
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		<title>By: Alfonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice, based on the numbers in your example above, if you buy a house at $65K and spend $5K to do repairs, and the house comps at $100K then you&#039;ve made an unrealized capital gain of $30K.  Your ROI depends upon how much you put down or how much your out of pocket expenses were based on a double closing, and it also depends upon how much your cash flow is.  Remember, the seller is paying the sales commissions, so you don&#039;t include that in your costs.  Not at this point.  Although if you want to reduce your expected capital gain to account for expenses that you will face when you sell, then go ahead and conservatively call it a $20K capital gain, like you do in your example.  If you spend $3K out of pocket to gain $20K conservatively then you&#039;ve done well.  Plus you have the cash flow coming in every month from your renters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice, based on the numbers in your example above, if you buy a house at $65K and spend $5K to do repairs, and the house comps at $100K then you&#8217;ve made an unrealized capital gain of $30K.  Your ROI depends upon how much you put down or how much your out of pocket expenses were based on a double closing, and it also depends upon how much your cash flow is.  Remember, the seller is paying the sales commissions, so you don&#8217;t include that in your costs.  Not at this point.  Although if you want to reduce your expected capital gain to account for expenses that you will face when you sell, then go ahead and conservatively call it a $20K capital gain, like you do in your example.  If you spend $3K out of pocket to gain $20K conservatively then you&#8217;ve done well.  Plus you have the cash flow coming in every month from your renters.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff,
What do you consider the &quot;right price&quot; the expected/unrealized equity capture, especially in the current market conditions?
And how are you going to deal with timming issue when you have the properties on lease?
What do you think prevent from people to get the expected unrealized equity capture &quot;today&quot;? the right price is not what is expected? timming? market conditions? no tax depreciation benefits? current lending-appraisal conditions?
I think from what Im underestand the equity capture can make you rich fast not the cash flow.
Alfonso:
&quot;Would you spend a dime to make two dollars?&quot;
Lets have an example so I can underestand what to expect in a typical deal:
70k price (including repairs)
100k (comparable sales)
costs:
7k = 6% fees (sales commissions + closing cost) based on 100k
2k = 3% closing costs when you buy and refi, etc (depend on the finance program used) based on 65k price, this cost is usually rolled up in the mortgage so you pay that later.
total costs about 10k
unrealized gains = 20k instead of 30k, still is good money, but its not the ratio 1:20 you describe.
Sorry If I ask too many questions, but Im trying to have a the whole picture, so I can set my expectations accordingly.
Thank you again,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,</p>
<p>What do you consider the &#8220;right price&#8221; the expected/unrealized equity capture, especially in the current market conditions?</p>
<p>And how are you going to deal with timming issue when you have the properties on lease?</p>
<p>What do you think prevent from people to get the expected unrealized equity capture &#8220;today&#8221;? the right price is not what is expected? timming? market conditions? no tax depreciation benefits? current lending-appraisal conditions?</p>
<p>I think from what Im underestand the equity capture can make you rich fast not the cash flow.</p>
<p>Alfonso:</p>
<p>&#8220;Would you spend a dime to make two dollars?&#8221;</p>
<p>Lets have an example so I can underestand what to expect in a typical deal:</p>
<p>70k price (including repairs)<br />
100k (comparable sales)</p>
<p>costs:<br />
7k = 6% fees (sales commissions + closing cost) based on 100k<br />
2k = 3% closing costs when you buy and refi, etc (depend on the finance program used) based on 65k price, this cost is usually rolled up in the mortgage so you pay that later.</p>
<p>total costs about 10k</p>
<p>unrealized gains = 20k instead of 30k, still is good money, but its not the ratio 1:20 you describe.</p>
<p>Sorry If I ask too many questions, but Im trying to have a the whole picture, so I can set my expectations accordingly.</p>
<p>Thank you again,</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No liquidity?  For the right price and terms you can sell your property today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No liquidity?  For the right price and terms you can sell your property today.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfonso</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesunlimited.com/who_is_in_control_of_your_money/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice, thanks for the reply.  I&#039;m not getting defensive, it just comes across that way because you don&#039;t see me in person or hear my voice. Sorry if it seems that way.
Again, fees are just the cost of doing business.  They are like death and taxes, you can&#039;t avoid them.  But remember, if you&#039;re buying a property at 25%-40% below market value then DO NOT let $3K in fees stop you from capturing $20K in equity.  Would you spend a dime to make two dollars?
As for liquidity, you&#039;re right.  Real estate is not a liquid investment.  But as I stated, as long as you are earning positive cash flow then do not worry about selling.  Of course if something happens and you need to sell then be prepared to face the possibility that you will not be able to liquidate in a hurry.
Buy below market value.  That&#039;s the strong point I would make here.  That way if you have to sell in a hurry, or if the market turns against you, or if you have lots of fees, or if you cannot rent the property out in a hurry, then you have that inherent hedge built in.
Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice, thanks for the reply.  I&#8217;m not getting defensive, it just comes across that way because you don&#8217;t see me in person or hear my voice. Sorry if it seems that way.</p>
<p>Again, fees are just the cost of doing business.  They are like death and taxes, you can&#8217;t avoid them.  But remember, if you&#8217;re buying a property at 25%-40% below market value then DO NOT let $3K in fees stop you from capturing $20K in equity.  Would you spend a dime to make two dollars?</p>
<p>As for liquidity, you&#8217;re right.  Real estate is not a liquid investment.  But as I stated, as long as you are earning positive cash flow then do not worry about selling.  Of course if something happens and you need to sell then be prepared to face the possibility that you will not be able to liquidate in a hurry.</p>
<p>Buy below market value.  That&#8217;s the strong point I would make here.  That way if you have to sell in a hurry, or if the market turns against you, or if you have lots of fees, or if you cannot rent the property out in a hurry, then you have that inherent hedge built in.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesunlimited.com/who_is_in_control_of_your_money/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alfonso, please dont get me wrong or get in defensive mode with me, I just provided some aspects I think everyone needs to know as a real estate investor (fees, liquidity, timming, expectations, etc in a &quot;normal&quot; deal). Because they can affect SIGNIFICALLY any future profits.
I think people will be more willing to take actions knowing realistic espectations with typical deals (providing &quot;typical&quot; profits and risks involved)
Please take the route of help, illustrating us how to overcome those obstacles and fears, please take hard and soft questions with the same enthusiams as a public speaker, you are the expert, people usually make questions based on their believes (or misconceptions).
From your response above I found only one good sugestion &quot;Minimize your costs by calling different lenders and compare expenses&quot;.
And please show me how good is real estate investing not saying 401k/stock are bad, please bring your energy to shine those grey points we may have.
Thank you,
Alice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alfonso, please dont get me wrong or get in defensive mode with me, I just provided some aspects I think everyone needs to know as a real estate investor (fees, liquidity, timming, expectations, etc in a &#8220;normal&#8221; deal). Because they can affect SIGNIFICALLY any future profits.</p>
<p>I think people will be more willing to take actions knowing realistic espectations with typical deals (providing &#8220;typical&#8221; profits and risks involved)</p>
<p>Please take the route of help, illustrating us how to overcome those obstacles and fears, please take hard and soft questions with the same enthusiams as a public speaker, you are the expert, people usually make questions based on their believes (or misconceptions).</p>
<p>From your response above I found only one good sugestion &#8220;Minimize your costs by calling different lenders and compare expenses&#8221;.</p>
<p>And please show me how good is real estate investing not saying 401k/stock are bad, please bring your energy to shine those grey points we may have.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Alice.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfonso</title>
		<link>http://www.lifestylesunlimited.com/who_is_in_control_of_your_money/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback all.
Alice, whether you buy at a 25% discount or 1% discount, right now it is not easy to buy with zero dollars out of pocket, but that was never mentioned in the article because the article is about keeping control of your money, not buying real estate with no money down, or property management.
Also, it is true that you pay fees when you both buy and sell property.  That&#039;s the cost of doing business.  You&#039;ll also pay fees to trade stocks.  Minimize your costs by calling different lenders and compare expenses.  My first property purchase was done w/o a realtor.  The seller didn&#039;t pay 6% commission. You cannot let a $1,000 fee stop you from capturing $20,000 in equity.
Lastly, you are right that the small cash flow from a single family home will not make you rich.  But if you put $5K into a deal and make $250 a month in positive cash flow that is a much greater return than you will get putting $5K into your 401(k), which will net you $0 a month.  Plus, when you combine the cash flow, the equity capture, and the tax benefits of a few single family houses, now you are talking about a good chunck of money.
Thanks again for the feedback.  Have a great day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback all.</p>
<p>Alice, whether you buy at a 25% discount or 1% discount, right now it is not easy to buy with zero dollars out of pocket, but that was never mentioned in the article because the article is about keeping control of your money, not buying real estate with no money down, or property management.</p>
<p>Also, it is true that you pay fees when you both buy and sell property.  That&#8217;s the cost of doing business.  You&#8217;ll also pay fees to trade stocks.  Minimize your costs by calling different lenders and compare expenses.  My first property purchase was done w/o a realtor.  The seller didn&#8217;t pay 6% commission. You cannot let a $1,000 fee stop you from capturing $20,000 in equity.</p>
<p>Lastly, you are right that the small cash flow from a single family home will not make you rich.  But if you put $5K into a deal and make $250 a month in positive cash flow that is a much greater return than you will get putting $5K into your 401(k), which will net you $0 a month.  Plus, when you combine the cash flow, the equity capture, and the tax benefits of a few single family houses, now you are talking about a good chunck of money.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the feedback.  Have a great day.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Job, Alfonso, its alot of information for the average person, I think you dedicated to much energy to a non-real estate topics, first 30 paragraphs dedicated to talk about 401k/stocks and 15 to real estate.
Remember We are hungry to know how to succeed in real estate!!!
For a type A of person maybe its too much, they wont read the whole article.
For a type B, some of the real estate&#039;s financial topics weren&#039;t exposed (low liquidity, market exposure, future expectatition, transaction fees, etc, the big picture! With out mention the operational topics).
And remember cash flow wont make you rich in real estate (at least at the single family level). But You can have more control of your money, agree!
If the price drops 25% and you bought 25% discount, two things:
.- 25% discount wont be more likely a zero dollars out of pocket deal.
.- If You decide to sell for any reason, you still have to pay fees (3-6%) plus any price reduction to accelerate the sale and timining. And I forgot the fees when you bought it.
Remember We are hungry to know how to succeed in real estate!!! I think Exposing all those risks and myths will help us tremendously.
Good luck and looking forward to heard from you.
Alice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Job, Alfonso, its alot of information for the average person, I think you dedicated to much energy to a non-real estate topics, first 30 paragraphs dedicated to talk about 401k/stocks and 15 to real estate.</p>
<p>Remember We are hungry to know how to succeed in real estate!!!</p>
<p>For a type A of person maybe its too much, they wont read the whole article.</p>
<p>For a type B, some of the real estate&#8217;s financial topics weren&#8217;t exposed (low liquidity, market exposure, future expectatition, transaction fees, etc, the big picture! With out mention the operational topics).</p>
<p>And remember cash flow wont make you rich in real estate (at least at the single family level). But You can have more control of your money, agree!</p>
<p>If the price drops 25% and you bought 25% discount, two things:</p>
<p>.- 25% discount wont be more likely a zero dollars out of pocket deal.</p>
<p>.- If You decide to sell for any reason, you still have to pay fees (3-6%) plus any price reduction to accelerate the sale and timining. And I forgot the fees when you bought it.</p>
<p>Remember We are hungry to know how to succeed in real estate!!! I think Exposing all those risks and myths will help us tremendously.</p>
<p>Good luck and looking forward to heard from you.</p>
<p>Alice</p>
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